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		<title>Comment on That Genius stuff was always a distraction. by Emily Green</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/23/that-genius-stuff-was-always-a-distraction/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Particularly well argued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Particularly well argued.</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Genius stuff was always a distraction. by John Mashey</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/23/that-genius-stuff-was-always-a-distraction/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mashey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, if I&#039;d known about this, I&#039;d surely have asked Peter not to do this or to delay a while (at the least), since Feb 13 I&#039;d finished &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desmogblog.com/fake-science-fakexperts-funny-finances-free-tax&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fake science, fakexperts, funny finances, free of tax&lt;/a&gt; the day before, with the derived IRS complaint sealed to go on teh 14th.  Then life went crazy.

The strategy document confused people into thinking Heartland was just planning on attacks on education. That wasn&#039;t new, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desmogblog.com/fakeducation-years-heartland&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fakeducation For Years From Heartland.&lt;/a&gt;.
It also distracted everybody from the real info in the Budget and Funding documents.

The results are mixed.  There has been much confusion ... but then I&#039;ve gotten more calls from mainstream media and Congressional staff in last week or so than in quite a while.  One Congressman has already called for an investigation of one Heartland-related government employee, letters have gone to 6 universities regarding staff who might have conflicts of interest, many people are pushing on corporate donors, we&#039;ve learned Heartland is getting even more money from tobacco companies, and a large number of people besides me have suddenly gotten interested in 501(c)(3) and following money trails.  Some of that would have happened without the leak, some not.  Of course, the Anonymous Donor is almost certain to be Barre Seid, something useful to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if I&#8217;d known about this, I&#8217;d surely have asked Peter not to do this or to delay a while (at the least), since Feb 13 I&#8217;d finished <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/fake-science-fakexperts-funny-finances-free-tax" rel="nofollow">Fake science, fakexperts, funny finances, free of tax</a> the day before, with the derived IRS complaint sealed to go on teh 14th.  Then life went crazy.</p>
<p>The strategy document confused people into thinking Heartland was just planning on attacks on education. That wasn&#8217;t new, see <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/fakeducation-years-heartland" rel="nofollow">Fakeducation For Years From Heartland.</a>.<br />
It also distracted everybody from the real info in the Budget and Funding documents.</p>
<p>The results are mixed.  There has been much confusion &#8230; but then I&#8217;ve gotten more calls from mainstream media and Congressional staff in last week or so than in quite a while.  One Congressman has already called for an investigation of one Heartland-related government employee, letters have gone to 6 universities regarding staff who might have conflicts of interest, many people are pushing on corporate donors, we&#8217;ve learned Heartland is getting even more money from tobacco companies, and a large number of people besides me have suddenly gotten interested in 501(c)(3) and following money trails.  Some of that would have happened without the leak, some not.  Of course, the Anonymous Donor is almost certain to be Barre Seid, something useful to know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Genius stuff was always a distraction. by Marcus</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/23/that-genius-stuff-was-always-a-distraction/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve captured Gleick&#039;s value and role in the water world just right, but your three outcomes misses one:

d. Morally impure ineffective outcome.

Not to get all scold-y, but it&#039;s hard to see how Gleick&#039;s recent actions are going to help the cause of climate change, or help to discredit the Heartland Institute.  If anything, it is going to give them the high ground, cause them to gain sympathy from the general public, spur donations to them, and generally not help the cause of those advocating for action to slow/stop climate change.  Also, it generally just muddies the water in the climate debate.  Not a very effective outcome in my mind.  Seems pretty straightforwadly counter-productive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve captured Gleick&#8217;s value and role in the water world just right, but your three outcomes misses one:</p>
<p>d. Morally impure ineffective outcome.</p>
<p>Not to get all scold-y, but it&#8217;s hard to see how Gleick&#8217;s recent actions are going to help the cause of climate change, or help to discredit the Heartland Institute.  If anything, it is going to give them the high ground, cause them to gain sympathy from the general public, spur donations to them, and generally not help the cause of those advocating for action to slow/stop climate change.  Also, it generally just muddies the water in the climate debate.  Not a very effective outcome in my mind.  Seems pretty straightforwadly counter-productive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by Wayne Lusvardi</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/16/plumbing-is-not-destiny/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Lusvardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BIG JEFF
THE CONGRESSMAN&#039;S NAME IS &quot;N-U-N-E-S&quot; NOT NUNEZ.  

IF THE FEDS DEVELOP MORE RESOURCES FOR WATER IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THIS GOES TO THE FARMERS TO KEEP THE U.S. COMPETITIVE IN GLOBAL AGRIBUSINESS THEN MIGHT THIS FREE UP SOME STATE WATER PROJECT WATER FOR OTHERS?  IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.  

THERE IS A COMPELLING NATIONAL INTEREST IN NUNES&#039; H.R. 1837 BILL FOR AGRIBUSINESS.  WHY WOULD WE WANT TO MAKE FARMERS PAY CITY WATER PRICES AND MAKE THEM LESS COMPETITIVE GLOBALLY?  DO WE WANT OUR LETTUCE, MELONS, BOK CHOI, AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM CHILE AND MEXICO?  NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF CHEAP WATER GONE THE NOTION THAT CALIFORNIA WATER HAS GLOBAL AMERICAN INTEREST IS ALSO GONE.  THINK GLOBALLY, DRINK LOCALLY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIG JEFF<br />
THE CONGRESSMAN&#8217;S NAME IS &#8220;N-U-N-E-S&#8221; NOT NUNEZ.  </p>
<p>IF THE FEDS DEVELOP MORE RESOURCES FOR WATER IN THEIR SYSTEM AND THIS GOES TO THE FARMERS TO KEEP THE U.S. COMPETITIVE IN GLOBAL AGRIBUSINESS THEN MIGHT THIS FREE UP SOME STATE WATER PROJECT WATER FOR OTHERS?  IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.  </p>
<p>THERE IS A COMPELLING NATIONAL INTEREST IN NUNES&#8217; H.R. 1837 BILL FOR AGRIBUSINESS.  WHY WOULD WE WANT TO MAKE FARMERS PAY CITY WATER PRICES AND MAKE THEM LESS COMPETITIVE GLOBALLY?  DO WE WANT OUR LETTUCE, MELONS, BOK CHOI, AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM CHILE AND MEXICO?  NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF CHEAP WATER GONE THE NOTION THAT CALIFORNIA WATER HAS GLOBAL AMERICAN INTEREST IS ALSO GONE.  THINK GLOBALLY, DRINK LOCALLY.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by Jeff</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/16/plumbing-is-not-destiny/#comment-1373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Nunez proposal is undoubtedly better than a peripheral canal/tunnel/BDCP for his agricultural constituents.  While I doubt the canal is in most Valley agricultural financial interests (assuming a real finance plan with actual consequences if they don&#039;t pay), I wouldn&#039;t interpret his statement as an admission of that.

I think the statement that it will nullify the need for a canal (not sure MWD would agree with that) may have more to do with broadening support and framing it as fiscally conservative.  There is another provision about incentivizing early payoff of CVP debt as a measure to reduce the national debt (a deceptive claim).  This bill is undoubtedly dead this year, but I wonder if he thinks there is a chance if Republicans get control of the Senate next year, and it could be somehow rolled into a deficit reduction package or a measure to &quot;pay for&quot; a popular tax cut.  Wild speculation, but I wonder if there is more to the strategy than moving the window, playing chicken, or being a loose cannon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Nunez proposal is undoubtedly better than a peripheral canal/tunnel/BDCP for his agricultural constituents.  While I doubt the canal is in most Valley agricultural financial interests (assuming a real finance plan with actual consequences if they don&#8217;t pay), I wouldn&#8217;t interpret his statement as an admission of that.</p>
<p>I think the statement that it will nullify the need for a canal (not sure MWD would agree with that) may have more to do with broadening support and framing it as fiscally conservative.  There is another provision about incentivizing early payoff of CVP debt as a measure to reduce the national debt (a deceptive claim).  This bill is undoubtedly dead this year, but I wonder if he thinks there is a chance if Republicans get control of the Senate next year, and it could be somehow rolled into a deficit reduction package or a measure to &#8220;pay for&#8221; a popular tax cut.  Wild speculation, but I wonder if there is more to the strategy than moving the window, playing chicken, or being a loose cannon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by Mr. Kurtz</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/16/plumbing-is-not-destiny/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Kurtz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any Ag wants water. Goes back to Cain and Abel.
Hunter gatherer life was a whole lot worse for everyone, critters and plants included.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any Ag wants water. Goes back to Cain and Abel.<br />
Hunter gatherer life was a whole lot worse for everyone, critters and plants included.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Big Ag&quot;, to the extent that it&#039;s a coherent entity, only wants an assured supply of water.  It really doesn&#039;t care what the mechanism is that assures that supply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Big Ag&#8221;, to the extent that it&#8217;s a coherent entity, only wants an assured supply of water.  It really doesn&#8217;t care what the mechanism is that assures that supply.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by John Fleck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Fleck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay - Thanks for jumping in. Is this a reference to your &quot;From Cooperation to Chicken“ paper? I&#039;d love it if you would elaborate a bit on how this fits into that analytic framework.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; Thanks for jumping in. Is this a reference to your &#8220;From Cooperation to Chicken“ paper? I&#8217;d love it if you would elaborate a bit on how this fits into that analytic framework.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by jaylund</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaylund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The game of chicken continues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game of chicken continues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plumbing is not destiny. by Mr. Kurtz</title>
		<link>http://onthepublicrecord.org/2012/02/16/plumbing-is-not-destiny/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Kurtz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Devin Nunes&quot; means &quot;Julia Butterfly&quot; in Portuguese. Erratic is a kind way to describe these theatrical and self absorbed creatures of all stripes, who are good at turning up the volume while turning down the lights. I honestly have no idea what the motivation behind his latest doomed grab-bag of wishes.
BTW  &quot;Big Ag&quot; as applied to California does not describe any common set of beliefs on water policy, trade, environmental standards, or much else. There is a difference between gardening and farming, to be sure. People who want to farm for a living instead of as a social statement often have more successful businesses, and that seems to piss some people off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Devin Nunes&#8221; means &#8220;Julia Butterfly&#8221; in Portuguese. Erratic is a kind way to describe these theatrical and self absorbed creatures of all stripes, who are good at turning up the volume while turning down the lights. I honestly have no idea what the motivation behind his latest doomed grab-bag of wishes.<br />
BTW  &#8220;Big Ag&#8221; as applied to California does not describe any common set of beliefs on water policy, trade, environmental standards, or much else. There is a difference between gardening and farming, to be sure. People who want to farm for a living instead of as a social statement often have more successful businesses, and that seems to piss some people off.</p>
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